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  • vasyl
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    Go back to your own country.... oh, wait.

    It used to be a fairly common phrase when someone keeps raving on about some place, someone will finally tell them the above...

     

    And, obviously, Chinese do this with regards to many countries.

     

    Perhaps we even heard it when talking about China...

     

    However. what happens when the country you're in makes it illegal to go back there.

     

    Or even for others to visit it.

     

    The prime minister of Australia just made it illegal for people to travel to Syria or Iraq unless they have an 'official reason'... To me, that's a seriously gross violation of human rights. Especially in light of the above attitude... that is, we often say something isn't right in our country, so if people want to do something, then they need to go elsewhere... follow our laws, or leave...

     

    Isn't this a way to force people to remain subject to the local laws?? (sort of like certain countries not allowing its people to get passports...)

     

    Your thoughts?

    9 years agoin Visa & Legalities-All
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  • elitsa
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    Your prime minister is George Bush's clone.
    9 years ago
  • bania
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    I enjoy these debates. We might agree, disagree, have fights.... but the wumaos have no fecking idea about what we are fighting about. They have no concept. They have no fucking concept of what debate is. Agree to disagree... how to translate that to chinese?
    9 years ago
  • fabian
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    I think that the logic behind this has something to do with the fear of ISIS trained/indoctrinated fighters coming back to Australia and planning attacks after receiving training in Syria.

    9 years ago
  • reynolds
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    Well, Chinese can't really go back to being Chinese once they give up their Chinese nationality. Well I don't think they can, I think they can get special visas though...

    But anyway... if a Chinese person says that to you... just tell them that you will go back home when all the Chinese in your country return to China. That usually shuts them up.

    As for the restrictions on traveling to these countries... who wants to go there anyway? I mean, you MUST have a good reason if you want to go there... I think they are just afraid of terrorist groups capturing some moron (like the one Chinese guy) and then having it turn into a media circus.

    9 years ago
  • victor11
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    mmm, those are not ideal places to visit at the present time. I understand your feelings on the matter but how should I feel if my son would say: Hey Dad I wanna go visit Iraq or Syria? Of course I would not allow if I have the power...Freedom is one thing but making a stupid choice is another matter.
    9 years ago
  • callum
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    I've often used this type of rhetoric. But I realized it is quite annoying when I hear it used against me. So I began to reconsider it... That is until I saw that Mexican alien waving a Mex flag at graduation. That grinded my gears and I'm trying to figure out how to reconcile between my version of "go back to your country" and the one that is used against me. Is it the same? I'll get back if I have any break throughs!
    9 years ago
  • razvan
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    ada... if you murder someone in China, and flee to the US, the US won't automatically do a damn thing to stop you. The Chinese authorities must make that request to the US authorities. Usually, the US authorities will take the request seriously, and do something about it...

    Now, if you committed a crime in China that's not a crime in the US, how do you think that would go down?

    B) if you read a little more carefully the things I wrote, I haven't directly indicated (I think) which side any of this refers to. Our govt has just said "It's illegal to go to Iraq or Syria except with an 'official' reason". So, it hasn't made the distinction between fighting for or against ISIS... Which is part of what sticks! I am not allowed to view the amazing history of these countries, cos they say so... to me, that's fucked up!

    9 years ago
  • keith
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    Non of this would matter if the west pulled its finger out and send troops there. The crimes ISIS are commiting are an afront to all humanity. They should not be treated as humans but rabid dogs, hunted down and killed. Apparently it is ok to invade a country for oil but not to stop human suffering.

    weston:

    @shining brow:A) country A does have the right to say dont do X in country Y. If i commited murder in china and fled to my home, i can be tried at home for the murder i commited in china, why? because it is very illegal in both countries. now im not saying i will be brought to court for jay walking, but murder, most definitely. Your not actually suggesting if you fly to syria that its ok for you to shoot people? Thats what im getting from you here. B) scots was talking about government sponsored warfare, your talking about wanting to travel to a different country to commit murder. The difference is moraly slim but legaly vast. I have had several opportunities to vote on my constitution, despite it being 100 years old. Its not my fault if your side lost an election, its your fault for not working hard enough. Wait a few years and try again, this time work harder. Democracy, that shit actually works.
    9 years ago
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  • anderson
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    I see nothing wrong with not allowing citizens back to their country of birth if they travel to a war zone to participate in murder, absolutely nothing wrong with it, good fucking riddance.
    People always harp on about rights, our rights have been paid for in blood and i take them very very seriously, but they never mention responsibility. The main responsibility you have as an individual is to not murder anyone else. Thats the number one responsibility you have. Do not Murder people. also how is that a violation of human rights? You dont actually have the right to go anywhere you please.
    9 years ago
  • stanley
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    I say lt them go to Syria

    then they are not allowed back as the will no longer be Australian citizens

    I see today that Iranian backed fighters have put a bounty on the capture of Australian terrorist fighters .

    I would be better if they took another option and made the problem go away

    as for that religion from China

    I do not know enough about it to comment on it

    9 years ago

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